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Buyer Beware

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject: Buyer Beware Reply with quote

Some good advice from and yes, these scams are very common.

counterfeit cashier's check & money transfer scams

1. distant buyer offers a high-value (but fake) cashier's check in exchange for your item

* you receive an odd email offering to buy your item site unseen.
* cashier's check is offered for your sale item, as a deposit for an apartment, or just about anything else.
* value of cashier's check often far exceeds your item - buyer asks you to wire the balance via money transfer service
* banks will often cash these fake checks AND THEN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE WHEN THE CHECK FAILS TO CLEAR
* scam often involves a 3rd party (shipping agent, business associate owing buyer money, etc)

2. distant seller requests payment via Western Union or MoneyGram:

* seller often claims that an MTCN or confirmation code is needed before he can withdraw your money - this is FALSE, once you've wired money, it is GONE.
* common items currently: laptops, plasma TVs, cell phones, tickets - but could be almost anything
* common countries currently include: Nigeria, Romania, Ukraine, Spain, UK, Italy, Netherlands - but could be anywhere
* deal often seems too good to be true

3. distant seller offers to send you a cashier's check and then have you wire money:

* this is ALWAYS a scam, in our experience - the cashier's check is FAKE
* sometimes accompanies an offer of merchandise, sometimes not
* scammer often asks for your name, address, etc for printing on the fake check
* deal often seems too good to be true

4. distant seller suggests use of an online escrow service.

* most online escrow sites are FRAUDULENT, operated by scammers
* for more info, do a google search on "fake escrow" or "escrow fraud"
* if you must do business with a distant seller, insist on a legitimate service, such as

5. distant seller asks for a partial payment upfront, after which he will ship goods

* he says he trusts you with the partial payment
* he may say he has already shipped the goods
* deal often sounds too good to be true

for local police help, call the non-emergency police number in your local phone book.

for governmental assistance, you can contact your local secret service field office, or call the FTC toll-free at 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) or use the complaint form at, or call the Canadian PhoneBusters hotline toll-free at 1-888-495-8501.

other resources include (secret service) and (fbi)
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Location: Burlington, Vermont

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i get halfway through this and the 11 o clock news is now airing the same thing you just wrote....... that's fukked
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