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drewguere
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Lockers Reply with quote

I saw locking hubs in quadratec for CJ's and I was wondering if they made them for cherokees, just the munual lockers that you twist like 1/4 turn, I would like to buy some of those because they are relatively inexpensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think you can get manual locking hubs for xjs with the dana 30 without getting the warn front hub conversion kit and that is around 700-900$.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, looks like thats not going to work.

Question 1: What is a nice cheap locker system, I want to be able to lock and unlock it when I want.

Question 2: What are offset wheels, are they like stuck out farther, so it makes the wheels farther apart

Question 3: Is it pretty tricky to get my fender flares off, because I dont really like how they look
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Posi-Lock makes a cable lock system that replaces vacuum actuator on the front axle. It's about $110 I think. Check JC Whitney. And yes offset wheels stick out farther. They can help eliminate tire rub on things like suspension parts but your more likely to have rubbing on the body. But hey, thats what sawzalls are for!Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does posi lock do something for the rear axle, because I dont think I have the factory one. I have the D35.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. First off we are talking about apples and oranges here. There is a big difference between a locking hub and a locker. A locking hub means you are engaging/disengaging the front wheels to/from the axle shafts. A locker ties the axles shafts together turning both wheels at the same speed.

So the question becomes are you looking to lock the axle(s) or engage/disengage the wheels?

Wheel offset is basically how close the mounting point is to the center of the wheel. Positive offset moves the wheel closer to the vehicle, therefore moving the tire closer to the vehicle, helping to tuck it under the fenderwell. Negative offset moves the center of the wheel away from the vehicle therefore moving the tires away from the vehicle, and increasing the turning radius. Usually, we just refer to backspacing since you need to know what the backspacing is to determine the offset. Stock backspacing on XJ's is 5.25". So as you go lower in backspace, the farther the wheels will stick out.

It's not tricky at all to get the flares off. They are just held on with bolts.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking for lockers, to lock the axles, so all 4 wheels spin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as lockers go, there's selectable and non-selectable. Most non-selectable lockers are fairly inexpensive ($200-$400 range) and are fully automatic. Selectable lockers on the other hand are not cheap and run in the $700+. On selectables, you've basically got two choices, electrically actuated and air actuated.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are non-selectables always on
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are automatic. For the most part, they are locked or turned "on" all the time and will unlock or turn "off" when the left and right shafts need to spin at different speeds, like when rounding a turn. If they didn't unlock, you would chirp tires or break axle components.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are they on in 2WD
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drewguere wrote:
are they on in 2WD

ehirner wrote:
They are automatic. For the most part, they are locked or turned "on" all the time and will unlock or turn "off" when the left and right shafts need to spin at different speeds, like when rounding a turn. If they didn't unlock, you would chirp tires or break axle components.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, sorry, didn't read it right I thought that was talking about 4wd
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