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rjbinney
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Water inside Jeep Reply with quote

Hey -

I bought a 2005 Wrangler about three weeks ago.

I just noticed that the passenger's side floormat was soaked - because the carpet underneath it was soaked.

Yes, it has been raining.

But, also, it has rained previously in the last three weeks, and I didn't notice any water then.

So I pulled the carpet so it can dry.

BUT.....

WHY??? WHY is it leaking?

The door was dry, the window was up, the top was properly tucked.... I couldn't find any water anywhere under/behind/next to/above the dash...

The drain plug is in TIGHT. I will probably vacuum the water out so I don't "break the seal"...

So, any thoughts on from where it might be leaking?

It was a fair amount of water.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If often comes in through the HVAC drain tube on the passenger side firewall on the engine compartment side. There's a little fitting sticking out that somehow allows water in. It's often solved by adding a piece of rubber tube to the nipple that turns down, keeping water from getting inside. With your Jeep being 3 weeks old, take it back to the dealer and let them deal with it.

Also, make sure you turn the HVAC controls to off before exiting the vehicle. It seems to have cut down on the water coming into my 99 but it could just be coincidental.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Additionally, it was recommended to me with my 97, which has a huge vent in the hood, 3 times bigger than the following years to get the hood scoop made by Smittybuilt. This should keep rain and stuff out of the vent, but the product is made for flat surfaces, and the hood has a slight bow to it, so the 3M tape doesnt really hold so well. Good idea, bad execution. I'll have to resort to a more permanent solution soon before the rainy weather really sets in here in Va.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys.

ehirner: Is there a spot on the INSIDE where I could see if that is indeed the case? (Like I'll tape a piece of paper just underneath and see if that gets wet.)

Also, I presume that this happens when driving in the rain, not when sitting at the curb! Er, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could it be the AC?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjbinney wrote:
ehirner: Is there a spot on the INSIDE where I could see if that is indeed the case? (Like I'll tape a piece of paper just underneath and see if that gets wet.)

Not that I ever located...although I didn't look very hard for where on the inside it was coming in at.

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Also, I presume that this happens when driving in the rain, not when sitting at the curb! Er, right?

Mine did it while driving and while sitting. This is why I recommend the tube and turning off the HVAC controls. Leaving them on leaves the HVAC system open underneath the cowl cover.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubtful, I haven't run the AC much.

But, again, I don't know how long the water was accumulating. I was running the AC last week, but I think I wouldhave noticed a smell before yesterday.

Once it stops raining, I will crawl around under the hood - I guess the vent is easy to find?

Without a real good idea of what's happening, it's kind of tough to go to the dealer and say, "Um, something bad is happening... Er, find it!" you know?

I remember something similar happening in my 95 Cherokee about nine years ago, but don't remember what I did to fix it!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjbinney wrote:
Without a real good idea of what's happening, it's kind of tough to go to the dealer and say, "Um, something bad is happening... Er, find it!" you know?

It's fairly common. I'd bet that your dealer is very familiar with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then I guess the big question is... How repeatable is it? It rained hard tonight, and I drove through LOTS of puddles (Freezing with the AC on!), and... nuthin'.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it started happening whilst driving in the rain yesterday, so I took it to the dealer. Turns out they have a soft top leak "specialist" who only comes in on Tuesdays...

So now I am out front with a hose, trying to see if I can get it to leak... I don't think it is coming from the top, though.

I looked under the hood, and there was a rubber hose coming out from about where you described the AC drain... It protruded about three inches, and then bent down to the street at a right angle and extended about another three inches. Does that jive with what you think could cause the problem?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjbinney wrote:
I looked under the hood, and there was a rubber hose coming out from about where you described the AC drain... It protruded about three inches, and then bent down to the street at a right angle and extended about another three inches. Does that jive with what you think could cause the problem?

Sounds like DC added some parts and fixed the problem there already.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem with my TJ98

I thought it was a small leak that I found when I put the garden hose on full blast inside my cowl, so I plugged it up with silicone

Later that week I tried it again and the water was just pouring down under the dash on the passangers side only. I have yet to fix it.


Heres the picture and link of leak
http://www.jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5227
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've probably solved this problem by now but I thought I'd throw in my two bits worth. I've owned two Cherokees (94 & 95) and both had water entering on the pasenger side. I don't know if TJs are like XJs but in both cars the leaks were at the firewall at the blower motor. Since this seemed to be an common problem with the design, I didn't change the gasket but instead elected to divert the water away from the area. I cut a sheet of black 4 mil plastic sheeting (ground cover) and taped it to the firewall so it hung down over the blower. On the XJ it required the temporary removal of window washer bottle. In both cases the water entry was stopped. I used the ever reliable duct tape...black of course!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: water on the carpet Reply with quote

1997 wrangler.. under the cowl on the passenger side there is ductwork .its a two pc deal.between the 2 pcs there is a foam seal, thats your leak.silicone that area. also under the cowl onthe same side there is a piece of foam glued to the cowl. that pc. is suspost to stop the water from getting to the ductseal its wore out or cowl screws are lose. i had the same problem I tightened the screws to seal the cowl and siliconed the duct seal. no more wet floor. good luck
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