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kansas5.9zj
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Lift Question Reply with quote

i have heard a few people say when lifting a zj 5+ inches to go with a long arm kit as apposed to a short arm kit, why is that?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Handling. As your lift gets taller, the wheelbase gets shorter with stock or short control arms. The steeper the angle of your control arms, the rougher the ride and adverse the handling.
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sand zj
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prior post is right, I would say 3-4" is max before Long arm is a good idea. I just fabbed a long arm for my ZJ and can't wait to get in the sand to try it out (7" of lift). You will also get WAY better articulation with a good long arm kit as well as a better ride (of course if you want a good ride get a New Yorker) If you want it ALL get a Jeep.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I wouldnt say you need to long arm after 4" .. But I would absolutly suggest adjustable arms after 3.5... I am running 5.5 and adjustable arms and its a very good setup.. Flexes well and rides beautifully...


That being said.. I am about to put on a 7" long arm kit..

But I am looking for ford F250 to rip the axles off and then its on....Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What year F250 are you looking for? The front Superduty axles are bastards. Ask me how I know. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you gonna sell your current set up swampy?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since nobody has asked, code3 tell us a story!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am talking about the 60 front from a Super duty...

Now ......Lets hear it..

OH yeah...
I am going to sell the 8.8 eventually ... I have promised to hold my axles for a local guy but we will see whats up with that..

I am giving my lift to the guy who is making my long arms.. I dont know if he has plans for it or not..

Ill let you know..

Now ..... On with that Superduty axle story..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I'm just hating on my truck. The 1999 model year was when Ford started building the Super Duties. The 99 model was built from Feb 1998-December 1998. The 1999.5 model was built starting 12-8-98. What does any of this mean? There were a bunch of changes starting with the 1999.5 model. Naturally, mine was built in March 1998 and is one of the bastard models. The easiest way to tell is by the headlights - the early 99 has recessed headlights that do a wonderful job of getting packed with snow (thanks Ford - great idea. Rolling Eyes ) Other oddities on the early 99's is a smaller turbo that has bolts that loosen all by themselves, a different intake, different battery trays, different intercooler, different injectors, engine cackle, rear dust shields that scoop dirt into the brakes, and different size rotors. Oh yeah, there's very little aftermarket support for the early 99's. I've learned that some of the part numbers were superseded but Ford wasn't real good about updating their parts computers and causes all kinds of confusion. Anyway, IMO the drawback of the front axle is the the sealed unit bearing. They're not known for longevity and when they go, you have absolutely no warning. Replacements are about $400 a pop. They're garbage and I'd like to find the engineer who scribbled them into the plans. He's probably still laughing. Bastard.

Anyway, I've been eyeballing these - might be something to look into. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOHHHH shiney metal
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have 5.5" on my Zj with short arms and it rides pretty good. The articulation is mediocre. I went wheeling with my neighbor the other day and his ZJ has 7.5" of lift with rustys offroad uppers and lowers. it drives like crap and has almost no flex.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is he running a rustys long arm kit?
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