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Death Wobble - Need Advice


 
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monkeyman3875
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Death Wobble - Need Advice Reply with quote

Hey Guys,
Whenever my jeep hits an offset bump or divet in the road (that is, one wheel hits before the other), and only at high speeds the whole front end shakes like the axel is trying to escape. Any advice?
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RockOn
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your steering stabilizer may be worn out.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uncle had the same problem with his Cherokee and it turned out to be the steering stabilizer.

I have the exact same problem, only with my rear end. It feels like the whole differential is hopping side to side.

It was bad enough to pop the rear driveshaft out of the transfer case.
I'm thinking that this is because I have no rear sway bar.

Is that what is causing it, or what else can it be?
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RockOn
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW the rear end DW! Shocked
Did you have shackles in the rear end? or the Tera Flex drop shackles?

Dude sounds like you got something loose or broken. Tire out of balance? I would take a very close look at everything back there before moving it again!

I have no rear sway bar, but everything stays put too!
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know...I've never heard of it happening in the rear end.

Everything is stock, except for the 3 inch blocks, and removed sway bar. I just installed new U joints and U bolts, made sure everything was tight and nothing broken...still does it

The only thing I can think of is to balance the tires and see if that helps.
Anyone else ever have the Death Wobble in the rear end? Gets a little scary!!
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badger
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry but a steering stabilizer has nothing to do with getting death wobble it only hides it.if you are getting DW its because of worn out parts in one or all of the following

steering
balljoints
wheel bearing
trach bar bushings
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badger
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jerky_jer wrote:
I have the exact same problem, only with my rear end. It feels like the whole differential is hopping side to side.

It was bad enough to pop the rear driveshaft out of the transfer case.
I'm thinking that this is because I have no rear sway bar.

Is that what is causing it, or what else can it be?


has nothing to do with no sway bar hell some of the basic cherokees came with no swaybar from the factory.now as to what is causing it.could be anything.you say you have blocks .did you ever check to see if the u-bolts are loose?if they are tight then i would have to ask are you still running the original leaf springs?if so the bushings could be wasted.if they are good then i would have to say your tires are out of balance.
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jerky_jer
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put in new U-bolts and they are tight, I will check the bushings in the leaf springs and get the tires balanced...see what happens

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how tight did you tighten the ubolts and did you go back and retighten them once you drove around for a bit.Ubolts stretch a lot and you need to make sure to go after a bit to retighten them
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tightened them, drove it for a while, went back and re-tightened everything, and added an extra nut on each so that they won't back off.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out that the wobble was caused by a damaged tie rod. I need to replace it (as well as the steering stabilizer and probably the track bar). Where can I get better than stock ones for almost stock price? I don't need the super duty ones for 300 or 400 I would just like ones a step up from stock.


Post a link. Thanks
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badger
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

then buy all the steering for a stock V8 zj they are beefier then the stock Xj stuff
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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