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Smoking and Pulling to the right while braking??

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Smoking and Pulling to the right while braking?? Reply with quote

Recently my 91 XJ has been yanking to the right when I brake, but not everytime i brake. The other day on the highway after i downshifted and braked it felt like on of my calipers seized on and i could barely accelerate. Now today pops was driving it and right before he got home it started grinding and smoked for about 10 mins after he parked it.


Could this be a bad drivers side caliper? It seems that way because it yanks to the right and was smoking today. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty sure it's a caliper. my mom had the same problem with her chevy suburban. turned out to be the caliper.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caliper. Replace it. Might as well do the pads and rotors too since you likely toasted them real well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just pulled the wheel off and yea, the rotor's surface is very rough and uneven. The caliper isnt seized on or anything now, but the problem seems to be random. Im going to do the rotors/pads and the problem caliper this week. thx for the replies
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't replace that rotor until you look at that caliper. No sense in replacing 2 in a row. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kizer wrote:
I wouldn't replace that rotor until you look at that caliper. No sense in replacing 2 in a row. Wink


Yea I am going to do the caliper along with the rotors this week Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I got it all installed. The thing bothering me.....The caliper did come with 2 new washers but they are both quite thick, it forces the brake line to sit off the caliper too much and it seems brake fluid is slowly leaking.

Here's a pic, should I reuse the old inner washer?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tighten them more.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ehirner wrote:
Tighten them more.


Hmm ok guess I could give that a try, its really tight now though. I just have a fear of overtightening and stripping bolts. Happen to know a torque rating?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ehirner wrote:
Tighten them more.


Hmm ok guess I could give that a try, its really tight now though. I just have a fear of overtightening and stripping bolts. Happen to know a torque rating?

I have 3 torque ratings: tight, very tight, and really f'n tight.

The copper washers conform to the ridges where they seat. You need to really tighten them. I'd say these fall into the very tight category.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with Eric on this one.

You would have to compleatly crush those copper washers to the point were thier forced out from under the bolt head before you gonna strip the threads.

Copper washers are meant to be crushed some to act as a seal.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright well I went and tightened them really f'in tight, to the point the bolt head was cutting into the washer. We'll see if it leaks at all by tomorrow, if so I guess I will have to get thinner washers.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alright well I went and tightened them really f'in tight, to the point the bolt head was cutting into the washer. We'll see if it leaks at all by tomorrow, if so I guess I will have to get thinner washers.

It's not the width of the washer.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just my .02 worth but in the pictures i noticed two washers used at the inboard side of the fitting. This makes a total of 3 washers which usually about 1 too many. Typically there is only ONE washer on each side of the fitting.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nubicon wrote:
just my .02 worth but in the pictures i noticed two washers used at the inboard side of the fitting. This makes a total of 3 washers which usually about 1 too many. Typically there is only ONE washer on each side of the fitting.

I think that is just a reflection from the flash and the fluid that was leaking out.
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