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eggdashure
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Front Driveshaft Removal... Reply with quote

Hi all,

Question regarding Front Driveshaft. Can it be removed and driven without it? I'm looking to take a long trip and won't need 4x4, so I thought I could pull it off for the trips duration. The reasoning is that I heard that it will give slightly better MPG, not sure if that's true or not, but I know I have a bad U-joint on it and won't have time to replace it before the trip anyways. I know that shaft still turns somewhat even when not engaged.

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Matt Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you could remove it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any adverse effects to doing this for too long?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

none i can think of. have a safe trip bra. peace
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only put mine in when I know I'll need the four wheel drive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you notice a difference in gas mileage or acceleration at all? Last time I pulled my driveshaft off I could feel the front most U-joint was really stiff. I don't have the time, or tools for that matter, to replace it so this could be a good option.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really.

Here's a really fun one for you. You can't replace the u-joint in the front because it's not a u-joint. It's a cv shaft and you have to replace the whole thing at about $400 from the dealer. I had a machine shop lob off the cv joint, and put a u-joint on the end and balance it. Cost me about $150 but I now have greaseable u-joints that are only $20 to replace.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pipxj wrote:
Not really.

Here's a really fun one for you. You can't replace the u-joint in the front because it's not a u-joint. It's a cv shaft and you have to replace the whole thing at about $400 from the dealer. I had a machine shop lob off the cv joint, and put a u-joint on the end and balance it. Cost me about $150 but I now have greaseable u-joints that are only $20 to replace.





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Mine have double cardan joints.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orangeamc13 wrote:
pipxj wrote:
Not really.

Here's a really fun one for you. You can't replace the u-joint in the front because it's not a u-joint. It's a cv shaft and you have to replace the whole thing at about $400 from the dealer. I had a machine shop lob off the cv joint, and put a u-joint on the end and balance it. Cost me about $150 but I now have greaseable u-joints that are only $20 to replace.





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Mine have double cardan joints.


some people call double cardian joints cv joints because they deliver constant torque unlike a u-joint , though the balls and sockets style cv shaft do exist and is probably what you are thinking of orange

i think a couple of the years of xj production they slipped some in to xj's some were in the front end , but that thought makes me vomit so i wont research it .

and the double cardian joints cost about 80$ and there not that hard to do by yourself , you don't need and fancy tools you just have to know how to do it .

i wish i had a double cardian on the back as well , i would never lob mine off , infact i might put one on there one day after the sye kit goes in and i purchase a sye kit and an actuall lift not one i fabbed up from old vehicles and nylon sheets Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uncle, a jeep dealer mechanic, was the one that suggested it. I must have the one that was thrown on there for a couple years. It isn't cheap to replace. I was getting all kinds of driveline vibes and when we pulled it, bearings fell out of it. I did the U-joint conversion about 4 years ago and haven't had any problems with it. If I had the money, I would def. go SYE but compared to replacing that shaft you can't beat the price.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres always ebay. good luck with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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some people call double cardian joints cv joints because they deliver constant torque unlike a u-joint , though the balls and sockets style cv shaft do exist and is probably what you are thinking of orange


I was thinking of a double cardan joint. I found this for reference.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some people call them high velocity joints too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

Thankfully it's not double cardan end of the shaft that's bad for me! Mr. Green

I know those aren't cheap to mess with, but I got some information I didn't bargain for with this post. I thought you had to have the DC joint on the front for the Full-Time 4-Wheel Drive. I was under the impression it somehow offset the turning of the front wheels for operation on pavement. I dunno, I'm still a newbie when it comes to driveshafts and the like.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should have a dc joint on the front . there really not super expensive , you can do one for like 80$ or at least i did using spicer greesable joints and the ball .

anyway
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