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97xjcrawler
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Leaf Springs Reply with quote

Hey I have a '97 XJ with a 4" skyjacker lift and add a leaf rear suspension. My problem is due to the weight of my rear bumper(Warn w/tire carrier) the rear end sags about an inch or two. I would like to upgrade the leaf springs but would like to find out what is the best way to fix this. Any ideas would be appreciated!
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monkeyman3875
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New leaf packs with a 3" lift built in. You can find them at most aftermarket dealers.
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c130herc
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMC/Chevy S-10 or Blazer , or Dodge Dakota Leaf Springs. About 4.5 of lift and they will not sag.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c130herc wrote:
GMC/Chevy S-10 or Blazer , or Dodge Dakota Leaf Springs. About 4.5 of lift and they will not sag.


hi i have s10 springs on my 93 cherokee and you only get about 2 1/2 - 3 inches unless you use the whole pack an if you use the whole pace you have to use bigger shackles i trird that without the bigger shackles an the shackles were at max and did not move an at that the springs rode like a 5 ton truck but did net about 4 - 5 inches if you use your main leaf an use the other three leafs includein the overload leaf you will get about 3 inches an use bigger shackles to make up the difference like i did you can haul that big bumper an not sag ive been runnin this for goin on 4 years now an im still sittin at 3 inches with them s10 springs an i beat them up flexin the hell out of them .... hope this helps ~phil Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeyman3875 wrote:
New leaf packs with a 3" lift built in. You can find them at most aftermarket dealers.

Which dealers offer these?
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c130herc
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

935speedxj wrote:
i have s10 springs on my 93 cherokee and you only get about 2 1/2 - 3 inches unless you use the whole pack an if you use the whole pace you have to use bigger shackles


You keep your top leaf; you do not even need to unbolt it from the XJ. Just add the whole GMC pack to the top leaf of the XJ after removing the eyes off them then you can remove a leaf at a time to get the right height.
As far as ride, it is a Jeep with a lift, I think there good and for $50 a set, that is even better. My 05 GMC dually rides harder than my XJ.
I run 35 tires with this pack and 1.5 boomerang shackles.
My son runs the GMC pack with stock leaf and stock shackles and has about 4.5 of lift and 33 tires.
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wagonbldr
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: leaf springs Reply with quote

I have heard of people using dakota springs and S10 springs, but haven't found out if they were 4X4 springs or not. Which do you use in combination with the Cherokee main leaf.
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Brad The Best
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: leaf springs Reply with quote

wagonbldr wrote:
I have heard of people using dakota springs and S10 springs, but haven't found out if they were 4X4 springs or not. Which do you use in combination with the Cherokee main leaf.


there is actually a write up on this site , try the search function . or start your own thread .

97xjcrawler , you can get leaf packs from a skyjacker dealer . as in most autoparts dealers , or summitracing . com .

did you kit come with shackles ? if your still running stock shackles get a 5" or maybe 6" ( i think only skyjacker makes a 6" pack )spring pack

or peice it together from a 3/4 tonne or 1 tonne truck .

some people think such a large pack limits flex but there isn't much else you can do .
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Drake69
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buying specificially sized leaf packs is the best way to go, if not the most expensive. The thickness of each leaf is what gives these packs their strength and resistance to sagging. Using packs from other trucks is fine as well, but trying to gauge how much height you get out of them is tough without constantly removing, adding leaves, and reinstalling them again.

As far as flex goes, you still want thick leaf springs due to the fact that they will return to their normal height once off the trails. Extended shackles are a good add-on to stiffer springs, and can really help to dial in your ride height in the back. They are also beefier than the factory shackles in the back as well, but stay away from revolver shackles. I've heard of everything from shifty rear axles and unsettling movement when flexing around to packs working themselves loose from the axle.

You should also consider extended bumpstop plates from DPG Offroad, since they'll keep your axle from bottoming out at full flex into the undercarriage.

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never run the "revolver" shackles, but here is a guy who really believes in them. He built his Jeep over a period of 13 years (I think) and is very knowledgeable it seems:

http://behold-the-rage.com/jeep_page_13.html

He at least has installed them and posted his observations. His viewpoint does seem to fly in the face of "what is known to be right," but again these are his observations.

Thought it would be good for an alternate view point.
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Drake69
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No prob, since I've never run them... Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted another link to this guy's website in the General section. His life with Jeeps is fascinating. It really makes a good read.
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