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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: ZJ In Action Photos Reply with quote

I personally don't drive a ZJ but I shot some photos of my friend Larry (a member of Jeep Horizons) doing a little wheelin with his stock Grand Cherokee a few days ago... Just sharing the photos with everyone.













Thanks for looking!

Tim Hallam - Weed CA

Here are a few more shots taken last Monday
















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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what happened to your wheel well .
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what he did to it...

Maybe he'll get on here and tell you.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not wheelin. My jeep will do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...Just sharing the photos.

I'm not saying its the most haggard thing I've ever seen done in a Jeep.

Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not get too hung up on what is wheeling and whats not. As far as I'm concerned he's driving a jeep, there is no asphalt, and it looks like he's enjoying himself. That there is some wheeling!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem.

The only things we should be passing judgment on around here are mall-crawllers and off road products. Just because someone has a stock rig and "it can be done by others" doesn't mean anything. Wheeling means having fun on anything other than a paved road! headbang
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then people need to quit saying you cant go wheeling in a 2wd.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always wanted too to go wheeling in the snow it looks fun!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djgbsbj, after looking at some of the other posts I see you were trying to use some sarcasm to make a point, am I wrong?

I'm not going to say anything about wheeling in two wheel drive. Must really make things tough unless you have some kick ass tires. My earlier statement still applies though, wheeling to me is about having fun, not about how crazy extreme you can go (although its fun to try) so wheel that 2wd beast till.....
well who cares, just wheel it!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djgbsbj wrote:
Then people need to quit saying you cant go wheeling in a 2wd.


You can't go wheeling in a 2wd. You can absolutely go out and drive around the trails. But, you are extremely limited to what can go through or over! I've driven many vehicles off road 2x4 and 4x4, even cars and vans. I've had the rear driveshaft off to try out front wheel drive. I've had the front shaft off, broken u-joint, only having rear wheel drive. No matter what, without 4x4 the possibilities are extremely limited. I'm not sure where you are driving, but the easiest places I go to, you would get stuck within the first five minutes. You started a silly thread about has anyone driven a 2 wheel drive cherokee, as stated in that thread, anyone that has a part time transfer case has driven one. On the easier trails I always keep it in 2wd until I need 4, I always end up needing it. Don't get me wrong here, I love all Jeeps, but there is only so much that can be done in a 2x4!

If you can produce the same pics as Tim has, where are they?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first car I drove was a '90s purple Ford Escort wagon. I've gotten that Escort to places you wouldn't believe with a little help from some grippy, over sized all-terrain tires.
However, every time I've taken that car into places that your average Escort won't ever see, I have always reached a point where I could not go further without 4WD.
By no means have I ever done anything with my Escort that I refer to as "wheeling."
I also have a 1982 2WD Toyota pick up. It's a great, reliable, beater of a truck. I love it! I drive that thing all over dirt roads and make failed attempts at hill climbs. It's great fun, but it's not "wheeling" as I understand it to be.

And when I'm driving my Jeep, I never refer to anything I do as "wheeling" until I'm in 4WD and using it hard.

To me, wheeling is four wheel drive - Wheeling is when you find a trail that requires 4WD to accomplish. A snowy mud soaked hill, rocks, sand, fallen trees or whatever etc... that causes all four wheels to slip.

And really... A Jeep just isn't a Jeep without 4WD. That's the true tradition of what Jeep is. It's a 4X4.

Not to say that your 2WD drive XJ isn't a good car. Hey, you're saving money by getting better gas than me, that's great! Really. But I can do that with my 4 banger Toyota too.

A Jeep, to me, means what pavement? Mud, trails, snow and 4WD. A Jeep 4X4 is America's true sports car. A beast where paven't isn't laid.

Tim

P.S. Whatever "wheeling" means to you is obviously different than what "wheeling" is to me.

I would like to see some photos of your 2WD wheeling though! That would be great. I'm not being sarcastic either. I would really like to see some photos of what you understand to be "wheeling".
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess to me "wheeling" is not so extreme to me since I've only been doing this a few years and don't have a crazy rig. My zj is in 4wd all the time anyway furious. I'm not trying to insight an argument here, just saying that I think Jeep-pavement+mud+friends= Awesome.

Can't we all agree to disagree or something? eyebrows
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not trying to argue... I'm just saything that its clear that not everyone has the same understanding of what "wheeling" is. And I agree, Jeep-pavement+friends+lots of gas+mud= awesome!

Yeah, the ZJ in the above photos has that "quadratrac" full time 4WD system. I'm not sure if all ZJ's have that. Do they? Anyway, the ZJ above gets 15 MPG and the highway and God knows what it gets in 4L... I don't want to know.

Tim
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