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Solid ft axles w/o locking hubs?


 
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JVILLA112
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Solid ft axles w/o locking hubs? Reply with quote

I am needing to replace my front axle shafts, i currently have the posi-lock (replacing the vacu sys) I'm told that the solid shafts are the way to go. In doing this do I have to replace the Hubs or can I block off the vacume plate and just install the shafts? I'm getting mixed answers, your insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.. oh yeah, 1993 jeep wrangler 4.0l 3spd auto, 8"'s total, 36/12.50/15
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvilla just so we are on the same page when you say solid ale i assume you are refering to one piece shafts like found in the TJ dana 30? if so then you should be able to just block off the vacumm box to keep out debri and be fine although i am not familiar with how the posi system works is it like a selctable locker or more like a lock right if it is the latter and you plan on driving on the street then ye you will have binding issues and i believe you can use the hub lock out off a 90s model ford ranger to fix this
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I do mean TJ shafts, I've seen people on the net just swapping and not using locking hubs. However I could easily see how it would bind up, will that be an issue if it's in 2 wheel drive, on the street?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the only thing you will have has you have a is the fornt drive shaft spinning all the time the transfer case will be spinning to but not locked in. If you plan to do a lot of on payment driving then you should try to find a axle setup that has lock outs on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your input. I will do hubs I just did not want to do them right now. I suppose i really will need them since I also flat tow my Jeep

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if flat towing is in the future yes or crawl under and disconect the front drive shaft at the axle
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you didn't like my answer when you asked in this thread?
http://www.jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=78085&highlight=#78085
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JVILLA112
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i liked your answer just fine, the other guy replied today, so we were just chatting about it. hope that's cool.
Thanks for your help, my guy is installing them right now, complete kit $477 from expertoffroad.com
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, now i see, I guess it asked in 2 threads. sorry for the confusion
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, there is so much misinformation here.

1. To upgrade to the 1-piece axle shafts like in a TJ, you do not need manual hubs.
2. You do need to fabricate or buy a block off plate for the disconnect housing.
3. You do need to add an oil seal inside the differential.
4. You will not see any more bind in 2wd then you do now.
5. Your front driveshaft will spin all the time while moving once you upgrade. This will not hurt anything and will not cause a decrease in your mileage.

Remember, every TJ and late model XJ came off the factory assembly line built in this fashion. Check out a TJ or an XJ....neither has manual hubs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry for any confusing in my reply I was just stating thinking of gas mileage and wear and tear on the unit pulling it......
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx again for both responces, I'm glad I could find quality answers, and relived cause I sure didnt want to buy hubs right now. See you on the trails
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