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Looking For Help With Maintenance - '86 Cherokee

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Tim Hallam
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Location: Mt. Shasta, California

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone help me out with bleeding the clutch line?

I tried it today and I did manage to get all the old fluid out, most of which ended up on me. I added new fluid into the line while my friend pumped the clutch in and out. I then tightened the bleeder once the new fluid started leaking out of it. I topped off the cylinder and it was great! There was tons of pressure on the pedal for about 3 minutes. Then... The pressure dissipated and I couldn't even get it into gear! So, I crawled back under and quickly found out that I stupidly hadn't tightened it nearly enough! It was finger loose... So, I just finished tightening with my microscopic socket wrench. There's no damn room in there to use a wrench of any significants! I added more fluid untile the cylinder was full and the clutch is working now but it doesn't have nearly as much pressure as it should have.

Does anyone know the propper way to bleed a clutch line? Looking for any help I can get.

Thank you, I really appreciate it!

Tim
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youll have to bleed the clutch on the slace cylinder located on the passenger side of the transmission... its a MAJOR PITA to do since the bleeder valve is probably between the slave cylinder and the body. The slave cylinder looks almost like a small starter sticking out of the transmission/bell housing
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah! I found that... That's what I bleed.

I was just wondering if there's a "proper" strategic way to do it. Obviously what I did didn't work out very well...

I'm out of DOT3 fluid until tomorrow... Plus it's dark and snowing now.

Damn winter... Oh wait, I have a Jeep now! Winter, yay...

Tim
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had to cut a hole is the floor because I couldnt fit my hand or a wrench up there... but I'm sure there is an easier way, I just have a welder here and welded the hole back together when I finished bleeding it
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kaos
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the bleeding instructions from an '88 service manual. Yours should be similar:

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HYDRAULIC SYSTEM BLEEDING
1) Fill master cylinder reservoir with DOT 3 brake fluid. On
all models except Wrangler, compress slave cylinder plunger by pushing
release lever as far forward as possible.
2) Attach rubber hose to slave cylinder bleeder screw.
Immerse other end of hose in glass container 1/2 full of brake fluid.
Loosen bleeder screw and have an assistant depress clutch pedal.
Tighten bleeder screw and release pedal.
3) Repeat bleeding procedure until fluid entering container
is free of bubbles. DO NOT allow reservoir to run out of fluid during
bleeding. Refill clutch master cylinder to level mark on reservoir.


I notice that it talks glibly of "loosening the bleeder screw" without explaining how to access it :-( .

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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toliver09 wrote:
i had to cut a hole is the floor because I couldnt fit my hand or a wrench up there... but I'm sure there is an easier way, I just have a welder here and welded the hole back together when I finished bleeding it



...You know, thats really not a bad idea... It would be cool to make a little hinged "trap door" in the floor to access it. Hmm.... Tempting.




I just got off work and bought some cheapo (Shell) oil from Schucks... It's all I could afford with my $11 tip from work. It will do just fine for the next 3,000 miles. I'll buy some Castrol GTX H.M. next time.

I wasn't able to afford an oil filter and the oil at the same time. A really nice guy behind me in line asked what kind vehicle I was driving... I told him an '86 Cherokee... His face lit up and he said, " Oh, I can spare a few bucks for a fellow Jeep driver." So, I got an oil filter too!

He was driving a burly CJ7...

I really appreciate kind people like that... It's the little things that will make your day. Or, your next 3,000 miles in that case.

Tim
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the instructions "kaos".

Those instructions are much clearer than the ones in my Haynes manual.

Thank you!

Tim
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad The Best:

"Yup just the belt, try tightening it up a little bit, it should still deflect a lot, you don't want it to tight just give it a little bit and see if it stops squealing."


Yeah, I'll just replace both the belts... I found that I'm missing two teeth out of it and there are numerous cracks all over.

Tim
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any recomendations for a good carburetor cleaner brand?
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Tim Hallam
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It finally stopped snowing today.

I took advantage of the weather and used the opportunity to change my oil.

The Jeep is running much smoother and the rough idle has greatly improved. I'm shocked by how much better its running.

The differentials are next, along with the T-case and fresh spark plugs.

Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put Autolite Platinum plugs in my engine today (2/26/0Cool.

Even in our 25 degree weather my engine is idling P E R F E C T L Y smooth as soon it starts! The plugs, oil and a little clean out of the carburetor solved the rough idle issue. Man my old plugs look like crap! I should post a picture of them. I doubt my number 5 cylinder was even firing with the plug in the shape its in. One of them didn't even have the ceramic casing left. Hopefully none got into the engine. Doesn't seem like any got in there.

Fan belt, gear oil, and some ATF for my transfer case coming up! Grease for the stearing components and U joints as well.

Tim
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