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jppilot61
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably should have listened to "Best Trail Guide" (Bob) or "Safest Driver" (Steve).

Bob did a great job, but I want some of whatever they were smoking when they elected Steve the "Safest Driver"!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Hey Steve Reply with quote

What ya got between ya legs there?


Man that looked ugly all the way! Hope it's all better now. Did you have to resize the holes for the upper shock mount?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't touched it since Friday night. Currently it has no rear driveshaft, no drivers side shock and the swaybar is as useless as a shrubbery. We limped it home like that.

Only one of the upper shock bolts is sheared off. The other is still intact. I'm going to try and extract the broken one. If not, I'll have to drill it out and tap new threads. Worst case, I'll cut into the rear deck and weld a nut in there. We just have a lot going on right now so I'm not going to be able to get to it for a few weeks.

I agree with Mark...Bob did an AWESOME job as lead....but I demand a recount on me as safest driver. Has anyone who voted actually seen me wheel? rofl
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, what's the details. How'd it happen?

Drilling the shock bolts out on the driver side of a TJ is a PITA. Between the tank and the frame it's a tight sqeeze.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CJ5 hill is just a slick, steep rock. Although it's named because it was a CJ5 that first made it up successfully, longer wheelbases tend to do better on it that shorter wheelbases. Lockers help (and she has one), but if you don't have precisely the right line, you won't make it up. Jimmy was trying to get her to approach it from the left side to build some momentum and then turn into the groove. He assumed that she knew to turn into it....she didn't...

She hit the tree, which bounced the front end up in the air and twisted the body on the rear axle....hard. As the body twisted (violently) the rear sway bar end links snapped, which caused the drivers side shock to become the limiter. It sheared off one of the upper bolts and the shock fell out. With that limiter gone, the body continued to rotate on the rear axle, which resulted in the spring falling out. The twist was so far that the double cardian joint in the driveshaft couldn't take it anymore and one of the ujoint trunnions sheared off. The yoke of the rear axle also hit the muffler (leaving a nice dent). I'm not sure if it was the yoke hitting the muffler that cracked it or if it was just the extreme angle that the pinion side ujoint was at.

All of this took about two or three seconds....if that long. If she hadn't listened to Jimmy when he said 'stop', it most likely would have been MUCH worse as the bushings in the drivers side upper and lower control arms were very close to tearing out of their mounts on the frame side.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least there weren't any injuries. Mr. Green






Besides what the Jeep endured. Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePhantum wrote:
She hit the tree, which bounced the front end up in the air and twisted the body on the rear axle....hard. As the body twisted (violently) the rear sway bar end links snapped, which caused the drivers side shock to become the limiter. It sheared off one of the upper bolts and the shock fell out. With that limiter gone, the body continued to rotate on the rear axle, which resulted in the spring falling out. The twist was so far that the double cardian joint in the driveshaft couldn't take it anymore and one of the ujoint trunnions sheared off. The yoke of the rear axle also hit the muffler (leaving a nice dent). I'm not sure if it was the yoke hitting the muffler that cracked it or if it was just the extreme angle that the pinion side ujoint was at.


Nice. That would've been a thing to see right there from behind.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was the last person left behind her (on other side of creek) - Tail Gunner position.

Like I told Jen it was SPECTACULIAR BREAKAGE!

Sitting behind and at an angle above her, I KNEW something was terribly wrong when I could see the entire length of her Yellow OME Shock and the rear coil spring rolling down the hill.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yikes, breakage sounds bad, but atleast you guys were out wheeling, definitely sorry I missed it.

I'm thinking we should do a group buy on limiting straps. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main problem was the plastic sway bar end links....if they hadn't broken, none of it would have happened.

A prime case of break it...upgrade it. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a prime case for sway bar end links group buy!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Switch over to leaf springs shock
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StreetDoc wrote:
Switch over to leaf springs shock


rofl

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StreetDoc wrote:
Switch over to leaf springs shock
I was thinking of installing a yj set but opted for my 8.8 and the RE spring perch set that I had laying around for 1.5 years!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jen2Goofy wrote:
It's a prime case for sway bar end links group buy!


I upgraded to RE rear end links because I always felt the factory ones were too short for my OME lift. I didnt even think of it as a strength upgrade, more to just get increased travel.
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