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WannaBJeepin
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Can not remove trans Reply with quote

I am trying to do a clutch swap in my 98 TJ. I have all the bolts off, but the trans will not come off. I have been wiggling the trans sideways, jack it up to the body & wiggle, lower it down as low as it will go and wiggle. I have got it to separate a little at the top, but it will not come off. I am sure it is is the alignment pins that are sticking. I even tried using a torch on the motor arms that I believe to have the pins in it, but still nothing. I just can't get it to come off.

Anyone have any suggestions? Also, are the alignment pins on the side motor mounts?

Tim
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably already did these, but:
Disconnect or remove the rear drive shaft,
Remove the lower shifter boot,
Disconnect the t-case linkage,
Remove the slave cylinder,
I think there's a ground strap or something running from the trans to the engine that needs disconnecting, I just can't remember what it is.

About a year ago I replaced a throw out bearing on my TJ. the stupid thing that the fine engineers at Chrysler did is, they couldn't make up there minds on what type of bolts they wanted to use.
The two bolts at the top of the engine/trans are reverse torx bolts, witch forced me to go buy a special socket to remove them, then they had the bright idea of also using metric bolts for the mid two, and then the two main bolts are standard, witch maybe the reason why Chrysler has so many problems, no standardization.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was swapping out my engine i had the same problem and after almost an hour of trying to wiggle it out and looking to make sure i got all the bolts out i noticed a small bolt on the bottom so make sure you got all of them (we did feel like idiots when we noticed this)
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WannaBJeepin
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I finally got it off after hours of work. We finally had to use an air chisel. It seemed very dangerous, but we had no luck with anything else. We used penetrating oil & a torch on the pins. But the only thing that took it off was the air chisel. I really don't suggest this to anyone, but it worked when nothing else wood.

Chiseled on one side, then the other, and after doing this several times we got it to crack & wiggled it like crazy. Finally it came off, but I never thought it was going to.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This wasn't a big priority when I started the project, then it turned into one Sad Finally got everything put back together and it worked but...

There where two noises. One was a high pitch rattle like metal rattling & the other was a lower sound that sounded like a throw out bearing.

We took the trans back out and replaced the pilot bearing by the suggestion of Centerforce. I thought this may be the throw out bearing sound.

When looking at the fork, there is a spring that keeps one end of the fork attached to a ball when assembling. I moved the spring with my finger and thought that is the high pitched sound. I squeezed the spring together a little so it was tighter, inspected the throw out bearing, and reassembled. We got it all back together in 3.5 hours after just doing it all a couple days before.

The high pitch noise we removed by tightening up the spring. The second noise is still there and sounds a little quieter than a throw out bearing, but still sounds just like it. Push in the clutch and it goes away. Let out with the Jeep in neutral, and there it is. We can not figure out what it is, but drove it 100+ miles last week and nothing changed.

Just hoping it's not major :-)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeps are noisy, that's just the way they are. When I did the throw out bearing, everything was quite and smooth, when that one destroyed it self (after only a few months), I had a shop do it, thinking I did something wrong, now it makes a rattle noise from the throw out bearing at idle in neutral, as soon as I put pressure on the clutch pedal it goes away, same as yours.
Call it normal.....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh believe me I know they are noisy. Problem is, this doesn't really sound like a noise that maybe you shouldn't be ignoring. But, I am hoping it is like yours, and I am dealing with it right now. But I am paying attention to it to make sure it doesn't change :-)
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