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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Spring spacer Reply with quote

Choptop wrote:
I have a 2000 Wrangler with a budget boost. I have the common front end riding lower than the rear. Can I stack a spring spacer to level the jeep? I do have the stock spring isolator on the bottom and the 2" spacer on the top of the springs.


The isolator is supposed to be placed on top of the spacer, not between the spacer and the spring. You can add another isolator to level things out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: Spring spacer Reply with quote

Choptop wrote:
I have a 2000 Wrangler with a budget boost. I have the common front end riding lower than the rear. Can I stack a spring spacer to level the jeep? I do have the stock spring isolator on the bottom and the 2" spacer on the top of the springs.

The stock isolators that are roughly 1/2" thick go on the top of the coil springs and would typically be stacked with the BB spacer if one were to install a BB. However, as far as ride height, it really shouldn't matter whether they are on the top or bottom of the coil spring.

As to your question, they can be stacked within reason. I wouldn't stack 3 or 4 spacers but I would probably be comfortable with 1 or 2 of the stock isolators on top of a BB spacer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought ride quality was a bit harsher without the isolator between the jeep and the spacer. I wasn't about ride height.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an update. I just moved and haven't had time to buy the BB kit yet, and the fine folks at Verizon couldn't find my house for over a month to get my internet backup, oooh that’s the network working for ya… But fear not, I still have my wife convinced that a BB is needed, plus the RF shock is starting to make noise, yet another reason.
I will post pics when I get everything in.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the same problem ! Glad to see it !
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I had forgotten that I had posted this topic not to long ago.

An update: I did buy a set of 2 inch poly spacer for $55 (used). As I said in the other thread I was going to make my own, but for the money I couldn't pass them up. Besides, I priced raw Delrin material alone would cost $140, Aluminum was about $70.
I'm pricing shocks, I know a lot of you like the OME shocks, but at $87 each there a bit pricey.
Any other suggestions for a good riding inexpensive shock would be appreciated.
I might install the lift this weekend, I will snap some pics.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finely got the BB in, so here’s before and after pics.
I was very surprised how easy the install was, it only took about 1 ˝ hours to do.
I didn't get a chance to buy a couple front spring isolators to bring the front up, so the front looks lower still.

There are a couple minor things that I noticed after adding the BB.
1st, With only me in the Jeep while driving, I feel a hint of driveline vibe at 65-70mph, if there’s a passenger it’s not there.
2nd, The Jeep now needs it’s caster re-aligned, it wanders a little.

I did keep the stock shocks in, so it rides the same, but I’ll get a set in the near future.




Here's the Jeep pre-BB


Here it is after.




Here is the Alum. BB blank I started.


I saw these budget disco's in another wright up, they're a little sloppy and do make a little noise, but for $6.50 for the set.
I do have an idea to make a set simular to these, but make them the right dia. use harder material and make them more user freindly, Hell might even sell them.



Thanks for all the information.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After driving my Jeep for a week with the budget disco's, I think I'lll remove them, they are really noisey.
If and when I get around to making my own, I'd rather have the stock bolts in place.
Or buy JKS disco's, not sure what I want to do yet.
Other than that, my TJ looks good with the BB installed.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The budget disco's are always noisy, but yours look way too loose!

Jeep looks good! Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The person that did the wrightup used 7/16 clevis pins, I haven't measured the bolts yet, but the pins are probably the closest to the metric size without going too big.
I'll probably wind up buying the JKS disco's...

Thanks for the complement...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the pin diameter I was referring to. There doesn't seem to be enough pressure to hold the link from moving side to side. If you add another washer, they may be quieter until you get the JKS units!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now know what you were referring to, I noticed when took the pins out. In the bushing there is a steel sleeve that is pinched between the axel point and the nut making a "solid" point for the link to mount to.
I went ahead and put the stock bolts back in for now.
I need to buy a T55 socket, I had to borrow my brothers.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another update...
After a couple of months driving with the BB, I've noticed a couple things.
First almost every time I pull in to my driveway I hear a popping sound from the right front. At first I thought it was the disco’s I made, so I removed them and reinstalled the bolts, and I still hear the popping.

The other thing, sometimes when I hit a large bump in the road, I'll get death wobble. Everything appears to be tight, and well greased (ball joints, steering linkage, etc.).

I haven’t replaced the shocks or the steering stabilizer since I’ve owned it, but I know that they just may just suppress the problem, and not cure it. Hopefully that’s all it is.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im running a 2.55'' budget boost with 33'' Kevlars and absolutely love it.

Soon I am going to upgrade to a 4'' Suspension Lift and wondering if I should keep a spring spacer on or not??? Lemme know your thoughts.

Iv also thought of just sticking with a 4'' with tube fenders?!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texas Gypse wrote:
Im running a 2.55'' budget boost with 33'' Kevlars and absolutely love it.

Soon I am going to upgrade to a 4'' Suspension Lift and wondering if I should keep a spring spacer on or not??? Lemme know your thoughts.

Iv also thought of just sticking with a 4'' with tube fenders?!


Texas Gypsy



If you're staying with 33's, 4" should be more than enough. I wheel with a guy that runs 37's on an long armed LJ with 4.5 inches of lift. The most I would add to the 4" lift, if looking for more height, would be your spacers, cut in half.
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