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TJ Apex
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: budget boost questions Reply with quote

I think I may have finely convinced my wife to let me buy a budget boost lift! I would like the Rubicon Express 2” with the shocks, and if she giving an inch I might push it to a mile and upgrade to OME shocks, if they offer them…and if she lets me.
One problem is the front is sagging a bit from age, I know the correct way to fix it is new springs, but I’m on a tight budget, so that’s for later, then I’d rather get a 4in long arm kit anyway.
I know of a few on line sites to buy a budget lift kit, Quadratech, 4WD, Off Road Toy store, and 4 wheel parts. The prices are all the same $239.
My questions are;
Are there other sites that have better prices, or are they all the same?
Can I double stack the front spacers to level out my Jeep or will I be getting bad vibes or possibly something worse?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the exact same kit, i got it from 4wheelcustoms because they were offering free shipping at teh time, dont know if they still are, it didnt have an option for my to upgrade to different shocks, but you could always just buy them anyways... and im not car expert but i think if you double stacked the spacers for the front it would give you bad driveline vibes and im not sure the stock sway bar links would allow that much anyway. the TJ is higher in the rear than it is in the front
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can add some stock coil isolators to level it out in the front.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask around locally for a set of Rubicon, Unlimited, or Rubicon Unlimited coil springs. You'll get them free or cheap. Find a set with low miles and relatively new to spruce up the front suspension.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to update with heavier springs, here is a list of actual spring part numbers from different Jeeps:

These numbers are the last three numbers of the part number and the larger/higher part number indicate a higher spring rate:

03 SE 4cyl auto soft top: F *****128AB R *****104 built 05-03-03
03 SE 4cyl 5spd soft top F*****128AB R *****104 built 03-10-03
03 SE 4cyl 5spd hard top F*****128AB R *****104 built 04-04-03
03 X 6cyl 5spd soft top F*****129AB R*****104 built 01-09-03
03 SAHAR 5spd soft top F*****129AB R*****104 built 06-09-03
03 SAHAR auto dual top F*****129AB R*****105 built 04-29-03
03 SAHAR auto dual top F*****129AB R*****104 built 06-11-03
03 RUBI 5spd soft top F*****130AA R*****106 built 03-11-03
03 RUBI auto dual top F*****130AA R*****106 built 03-??-03
04 RUBI 5spd dual top F*****129AB R*****105 built 07-28-03
04 SAHAR auto dual top F*****129AB R*****105 built 07-29-03
04 SE 4cyl 5spb soft top F*****127 AB R*****103 built 07-25-03
02 SE 4cyl 5spd soft top F*****127AB R*****103 (used car lot)
01 SE 4cyl 5spd soft top F*****127AB R*****104 (used car lot)
01 sport 5spd soft top F*****129AB R*****103 (used Jeep)

The first number is the front spring and the second is the rear. These springs are not true lift springs, as they are all virtually the same length when unloaded, but the higher spring rate should result in less sag when installed. I have a set of 130s from an Unlimited Rubicon that I am going to install on my son's 04 SE. My hope is to raise the front of the Jeep only to level it. We shall see what happens......

Of course the downside of the higher spring rates will be a rougher ride. It's tough to have your cake and eat it too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention, but I'm also going to get a set of JKS disco's to go along with the BB. The springs sag about an inch or so not to bad.
Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of stagering the sizes, 2 inch in the front and 1 inch in the back and buy the shocks, It will probably cost more though...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll get 3/4" with one of these. Simply stick it between the poly spacer and the isolator already there. You can get them brand new for cheap from a dealership or score some from a junkyard. These are commonly used to get a little height in the front when leveling or adding weight with armor or winch.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this lift in the spring. He had the same worries as you, that the front was too low and it wouldn't look good. This is a 2000 with 2" coil spacers only. We didn't end up adding in the extra height because it looked fine.

Before w/235/75 15



After w/31x10.50 15


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good idea Orange, and cheap too. The only problem with getting the spacers you have pictured is, I have yet to see a TJ Wrangler in any of the junk yards in my area, plenty of Cherokee's though. I wonder if they would be the same?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are the same
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also get them from a ZJ. The one in the picture is from an XJ.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EXCELLENT!!! I figured they would, but I wasn’t a 100% sure they same diameter spring up front.
Thanks for all the info…
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did the lift go? I'm chompin at the bit waitin for the pics! I'm lookin at the same lift on my heep.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Spring spacer Reply with quote

I have a 2000 Wrangler with a budget boost. I have the common front end riding lower than the rear. Can I stack a spring spacer to level the jeep? I do have the stock spring isolator on the bottom and the 2" spacer on the top of the springs.
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