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Help me lift my ZJ (read already)

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ChorE
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm Today I attempt to install the kit, is a PITA to install the control arms. Any TIP ? I remove the old one, even with out the coil, the axle went backwards making kinda imposible to align the hole in the bracket with the control arm.

Also to install the coils what tips you have?

Today I only did just 1 corner. but I put it backwards the control arm so tomorrow I will have to do it again !

Another question. The instruction sheet says for the Front lower control arms "Adjust the arm to 16 1/2. This is center to center or what?

And how can I determine the correct lenght of the control arms cuz I will need to add my pucks on top of the front springs, because my bumper is real heavy and only give me like 2.5" more than I had previous with the Upcountry coils + 2" pucks. Before the lift I measure 19.5" center of wheel to fender. and after the new 4" coil it measure 22"

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You installing the lift with a jack and jack stands?

And you have adjustable arms? For that I would just ask around on the forums as to what lengths people with zjs are running, then after that its a matter of fine tuning to your liking

as for the coils a spring compressor is what you will need if you are using the jack and jack stands, if your fortunate enough for a car lift then get a transmission jack to support the axle and drop it enough to install the coils


also if you are using the jack, you could try jacking up one side of the axle, but be careful because you may lift the jeep off the jack stands
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a big huge ratchet strap and pulled from the axle to the tow hook to get the arms installed..

worked like a charm..for the bottoms.. Then for the tops I pulled from the upper control arm bracket to the tow hook.. The made the axle twist..

Hope that helps..
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to install control arms i always get 4 screwdrivers . forget the bolts . put one screw driver in one of the lower arms in the axle , jam in another one , and another . you can use the screw drivers to move the axle around by prying . plus they fly in there so you don't have to hold everything and try and get a bolt in there .

then pull out a screw driver one at a time and replace with a bolt using the existing ones to move around the axle .


lift springs , your gonna need a spring compressor man . well actually two . i have made them at home , but you really need to know what your doing , there is a lot of force applied on them .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments, I use a ratchet strap to pull the axle. On the first arm I use it. but didn't know that was a common thing to do.

Finally I get some lift on front. but not as much i like. So the pucks will go in the next week. Smile

BTW: my passanger coil almost hit the quicker disconnect and sway bar And I measure both (lower) arms to the same length. What could be wrong?

in the passanger side i have plenty of room, but not on the driver side.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Track bar will center your axle...

Did you get adjustable or drop bracket??
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swamp boy wrote:
Track bar will center your axle...

Did you get adjustable or drop bracket??


Yeah i have adjustable trackbar. And the axle is centered. I don't know why neither can figure out the problem. If the lower control arms are adjusted exactly to the same lenght. the upers are stockers.

Why on the driver side the coil hit the swaybar/ quick disco's, but on the passanger side it has plenty of room.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

was the vehicle ever in a wreck?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1fox2go wrote:
was the vehicle ever in a wreck?


Never. And wasn't this way, before the new coils. On Monday I will take the jeep to the shop so they install the rear, and inspect what I did on front.

I will let you know what was the problem. Thanks for all the coments.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just check the swaybar bushings.. they may be loose and the swaybar may have slid over...

Just a thought...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok finally the lift is installed the problem was 1 control arm was longer lol my fault Smile

and here are a couple of pics


How it stands. In front I had to add the spacers and overall height is 5" lift and 4.5" back.


Flexing.. I don't know but i'm very happy with the results.


What do you think. ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not bad, you still have the rear sway bar?

also remove those shock boots, all they do is trap dirt inside and kill your shocks
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1fox2go wrote:
not bad, you still have the rear sway bar?

also remove those shock boots, all they do is trap dirt inside and kill your shocks


Yeah the rear sway bar is there, I really don't know how it handle with out it. Cuz this is my DD.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

remove the rear swaybar and get discos for the front for when you are on road
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1fox2go wrote:
remove the rear swaybar and get discos for the front for when you are on road


I have JKS discos on the front.

And with out the rear sway bar how it handles on the freeway ?
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